What I do have issues with is,I ordered a 6.3:1 ratio reel and got a 8.3:1 ratio reel. The SLX shifts are more precise than GX thanks to their new Hyperglide+ technology, which sees the inclusion of shift ramps that impact both up and downshifts. Winch and plummet style. Also going to strongly consider a SLX 12spd drivetrain with XTR shifter and chain. As with any review, you want to get a feel very quickly for how well it performed as there’s nothing worse than trawling through 30 minutes of review content to find that actually the product is a load of rubbish. As you say, with our more recent geometry, I’m not sure how much it affects us. Even so, the SLX still comes with many features that you would find in higher end reels. If I get drastically more than 700km out of the next chain, I’ll be sure to write something about it. 1x12, Admittedly, I initially rode the bike with the b-tension set by feel before stumbling upon the marker on the derailleur. My initial setup was off and while it still performed great, I noticed a slight improvement once set using the b-tension reference marker. The shape of the release (harder gear) shifter paddle also differs a bit and the SLX shifter uses bushing in two places where the XT utilizes bearings. I think one of them was written by Lee McCormack. January 2, 2021 July 17, 2019 by Hernan Santiesteban. Too bad the 2 shift jumps didn’t make it over to 12 speed. But the price/performance king for me is still GX 11 speed. Thanks to the metal construction of the derailleur, it was quickly fixed and hasn't been a problem since. Shimano won me over with SLX 11 speed. I scoured the internet for people's experiences on switching from 175s to 165s. Shimano's four largest cogs are 33t, 39, 45 and 51, while SRAM's are 32t, 36, 42 and 50 (or 52 for new cassettes). According to the internet science wizards (always to be trusted!) The Choice is yours: 1x, 2x, or triple chainrings The stock SLX shifter feels lighter to the thumb but the ‘click’ is vague and can be missed in rougher terrain. I was bummed but that’s not where it ended. Inseam: 32” Delivering tournament-level performance at a price that all anglers can afford, the Shimano SLX Casting Rods emphasize durability and performance throughout a range of versatile actions. Weight: 73kg/160lbs Sure is. Rapid Release, Weight. Shimano’s SLX is a mid-range mountain bike group with features that should appeal to most mountain bike riders. More information on Shimano 12-Speed SLX can be found on their website. the percentage difference is so miniscule as to be unnoticeable. With the price of SLX cassette or SunRace it probably is less than a WTC/OneUp etc, Get the latest industry news direct to your inbox. I have yet to hear a compelling reason why we should have rider size specific saddles, handlebars, platform pedals, chainstay lengths and backpacks, but everyone should use the same length cranks. The brake levers use a tool-less reach adjust to move the lever position to better fit larger or smaller hands. I see that, now! You also have to look at his test frame, a G1. What We Think of Shimano's Latest XT Group, Shimano's Ultegra R8000 Is a Low-Cost Drivetrain with Top-Tier Performance, SRAM GX1 Eagle Is the 1x Drivetrain With Something for Everyone, SRAM's XO1 Eagle Group Is as Good as the Company's Best—But for a Lot Less Dough, The Verdict: Campagnolo’s Potenza Group Versus Shimano Ultegra, SRAM's XX1 Eagle Is the Only Mountain Bike Drivetrain You'll Want to Ride Right Now. Shimano SLX Baitcasters Deliver the Features that Anglers Need, at a Price they Demand (continued). Conversely, I spend probably 90% of the time in the largest cassette cog. They perform the about the same overall. SLX, First ride review: Shimano XT and SLX 12-speed. The SLX cassette jumps 6 teeth from the 45 to the 51 where the SRAM jumps 8 moving from 42 to 50 (and now 10 with SRAM's new 10–52T). I'd like to think the Lunar stuff sram put out actually has some performance gains from the new spring and also rearranged parallelogram. Finally, the cranks and bottom bracket have been bombproof throughout testing. This reel has all the features packed into it that make it a solid reel. How we test gear. Date Aug 26, 2020. It's also heavier than the GX cassette. The clutch on this SLX derailleur has had no issues and it is serviceable. Last year, Shimano introduced the Curado DC reel with its I-DC4 digital brake control system designed to reduce the learning curve for anglers new to baitcasting reels, while raising the performance level for experienced fishermen. With the correct bottom bracket, the 24mm steel axle fits into any modern frame. Age: 39 The SLX cassette carries more heft than its more expensive siblings but I don't believe the cost associated with the weight savings is worthwhile. I find no negatives to having 11 gears to choose from rather than 12. We’ve already had the opportunity to test both the new Shimano XT and the SLX 12-speed drivetrains. With all the commotion surrounding Shimano’s new XT and SLX-12-speed groupsets, it’s easy to forget that the Japanese component colossus just presented a fully revised version of the XT M8100 and SLX M7100 disc brakes.And not only do they look a lot like Shimano’s high-end XTR model, but also deliver an almost identical performance. Aside from looking used, they’ve gone unnoticed, which is perfect and thanks to the steel teeth on the chainring, I don’t expect a need to change that anytime soon. The SLX cassette's construction is the same as XT and XTR. I'm with you. Proportionally I have a longer torso. It is offered in a 1x11 option with a wide-range cassette that has a big 46-tooth large cog that makes climbing steep singletrack easier. If street prices with Shimano's 11S XT and SLX are anything to go by, you can should be able to nab a 12S XT groupset(no brakes) for $500-600 in a few years or even months. The derailleur is 265g. Shifting down the cassette into harder gears, I found little difference between the two drivetrains but when moving to easier gears the more precise shifts of the SLX were obvious. I get more than 5000 miles on a GX all steel cassette. And GX pricing at both retail and OE is inline with XT. I figured as much those don’t appear to be removable. It’s hard to argue there’s anything wrong with SLX when considering value. Another subtle difference between the SLX and XT drivetrains is visible in the cassette. Also pictured is the plastic carrier included with the cassette. Even with the shifter upgrade, the SLX drivetrain offers greater value. It’s a contact point. Shimano SLX DC Review. Both GX Eagle and SLX come in at around 1/3rd of the cost of SRAM and Shimano’s flagship groupsets (that’s XX1 and XTR). But of the Shimano 12-speed cassettes, there’s no question which one I'd run. Shimano SLX Review. Shimano SLX M660 Shifter user reviews : 2.2 out of 5 - 5 reviews. Ape Index: 1.037 Shimano SLX. I’ve read some stuff lately that suggests shorter is better. But the old NX cassette was a boat anchor compared to the SunRace so the new system is lighter. The XT derailleur has noticeably less drag than the SLX and is a worthwhile upgrade IMO. How much of your Eagle complaint is about the overall integration with the bike? Aside from the internal differences – no Multi-Release or Instant Release – construction of the SLX shifter differs externally. The XT lever is made of alloy and features a textured rubber surface for more grip. Mostly crapped out clutches, messed up pulleys, and being delicate and finicky overall. But negates all the Shimano 12s shifting goodness. The Shimano slx Xt,is an excellent reel. Shimano SLX RD M662 SGS Rear Derailleur user reviews : 4.7 out of 5 - 11 reviews. I'm the same height as AJ and made the switch to 165mm SLX cranks about a month ago. What sets it apart? I can happily sit in each gear where I often find myself between gears with SRAM. Cassettes use Shimano's Hyperglide+, which consists of finely detailed ramps on the sprockets to aid smooth shifting and overall quietness and refinement. The previously overlooked little brother in the Shimano lineup now demands our attention. Gear-obsessed editors choose every product we review. I choose GX because there’s an all steel cassette option and I get 2x the life with it. Yes the shifts were lighter than 11sp XT/XTR, but the shift feel felt imprecise, cheap, and plasticy -- worse than a 9sp Deore shifter IMO. Ha! Before the 12-speed SLX group arrived I’d been happily riding the SRAM equivalent; GX Eagle. I believe so. The SLX weighs about 60 grams more but one less alloy cog should increase durability, with only the lowest gear using the faster-wearing metal. Most mountain bikers sit pretty upright anyway so I’m not sure it’s applicable. I’ve also read the odd article in recent years that suggests longer cranks have little to no gain in output. Win, win. I think the best budget setup would be SLX Cassette and Shifter with the XT Derailleur. It's not light (cheap tho) but the M6100 cassette is all steel. One place a rider should invest money in. Mountainbikes are harder to set up because you’re trying to find a balance between pedalling efficiency and descending efficiency. Shorter cranks are equivalent to larger chainrings. Oh,, and a grip shift for as many up or downshifts at a time as I want. And while the closer ratios make the largest cog feel more integrated, I only find myself using it on hell climbs, or when I’m shattered. Without beating around the bush, the 12-speed Shimano SLX drivetrain has features that I prefer over GX. Well, that lives with you forever, my friend. This new setup is awesome. About the only person who thinks GX is on par or better than SLX is SRAM him or herself. Enjoy/explore the brand-new MTB world through various riding styles! I haven’t personally ran a SRAM drivetrain since the 90’s so I cant really comment on them other than seeing many broken mechs and lots of friends complaining about persistent issues trailside. (an earlier version of this article suggested that SRAM's XD driver standard and Eagle cassettes are not recommended for eMTB but this was not accurate - although SRAM recommends using their single shift shifter for eMTB). shimano's current trickle-down performance, value oriented ethos has won me back to the fold again. Impressions: The SLX has been available to anglers since this past ICAST, and over the last half year has become a popular reel at the $99 dollar price point. I could probably get away with the 10–45T cassette or as Andrew Major has suggested before, fewer gears. 12-speed SLX set-up and installation doesn't differ greatly from previous Shimano drivetrains and when stacked against 12-speed XT, it’s essentially identical. The chainring is a combination of steel teeth mated to an alloy spider that mounts directly to the crank. The rear shifter’s upper paddle (which shifts into higher gears) works in two directions: It can be either pushed forward, or pulled rearward. As with price, grams are just as easy to quantify, and here SRAM wins one back on Shimano. Reading time . SLX occupies the middle of Shimano’s mountain bike drivetrain lineup. XTR is Shimano's top of the line and XT follows closely behind and there was a time when the performance drop off below the XT level was severe, but it appears that's changing. I dislike the name ‘SLX’. I’ve spent tallied over 700km of off-road use on SLX in everything from winter slop to dry, blown-out moon dust. Compared to the GX drivetrain the SLX replaced, the cassette carries the largest weight difference; 529g vs 450g for the GX. Full SLX drivetrain with the XT shifters could be a good min-max project. Shimano SLX Video Review. Thankfully for you there’s 2 positives. shimano, For the money, the XT shifter is the only improvement I would recommend to anyone interested in the SLX drivetrain. Look for that review soon. With the pedals level out of the saddle, no matter, but for sit-and-spin, you'll be up higher. Words AJ Barlas. Looking at the cranks, there's a slight visual difference to the finish and the SLX weighs a few grams more than an equivalent XT setup (with similar crank length and chainring size). The XT shifter is a worthwhile upgrade with the SLX drivetrain. The Shimano SLX is an incredibly sleek looking baitcaster with a stunning matte black finish and beautiful blue accents; This is after many trips to the LBS where I bought the bike. I expect this of my cranks and it's why lean to metal here. Hyperglide Plus They're constructed of alloy using Shimano's Hollowtech II technology, which has proven itself over the years. All my bikes since the mid 90's have (unintentionally) come with shimano der's and it doesn't take long for them to end up being actuated by a xt or xtr shifter. Shimano SLX has the features and performance you need at a price you want, Primary use: Mountain bikeGearing: 1x11, 2x11, 3x10 Shifting: MechanicalBrakes: HydraulicBuy it: Individual components at Jenson USA. Posted in: It remains that way to this day. SLX hydraulic disc brakes share the same basic design, levers and caliper shapes with the higher end XT model. When Shimano first presented the Multi-Release technology I remember scoffing that it was just a marketing ploy but in practice, I’ve grown very fond of it. But we’re talking about a claimed ~10 grams. Components - Drivetrain, 12-speed, I’d ride SLX 11 speed forever but it seems those components are becoming more and more scarce. 1X crankset: £99.99 Right shifter: £36.99 Cassette: £74.99 Rear mech: £74.99 Chain £29.99 Chainring: £34.99 Drivetrain: £351.94 I found the X01/XX1 chain to really make or break the eagle drivetrain. Next up, the SLX brakes. SLX Range. Shimano has trickled down many of the features of the top two groups to the lower cost SLX group and much of the quality and precision of the top two groups are present here, with one modest upgrade. Yeap, we're up in your social medias too. The rear mech looks a little different to the XT (and XTR) but they perform so similarly I couldn't tell the difference. It would be wrong to call these components “budget” components because they … Looking forward to your SLX brakes review. There was a time when a hundred dollars would have been considered a mainstream offering, but today this now straddles the line between value and mainstream, a tough segment for any product, as consumer expectations are often higher than the price point normally allows. [Forum] Does anyone need an update anymore? Shimano first introduced the Shadow Plus clutch-style mech to its XTR groupset, but it’s since trickled down to SLX (RD-M675 to give it its full and proper name(, making it far more affordable. I don't remember them being much of an issue in terms of wear. The Shimano SLX DC is the latest in the SLX series of baitcasting reels. I’ve discovered that I prefer the gear ratios in the Shimano cassette. Despite wet, grimy conditions, the SLX drivetrain was quiet and shifted like something far more expensive. M7000 Series Explore the new MTB world Why don’t you find the brand-new MTB fun? Shouldn’t crank length choice also be affected by leg length? Edited my prior post for accuracy. XT and the SLX models do differ slightly, they look visually different and the pulleys of the XT derailleur come with ball-bearings rather than bushes as for the SLX. Anyone who's spent time on Shimano in recent years should be familiar with the ability to shift two gears in one deep press of the release lever. It provides the shifting performance of the higher priced drivetrains without the associated cost. I couldn't get along with the 11sp SLX shifter. While the shifts on the SLX drivetrain feel tight and accurate through the pedals, the SLX lever lacks the feel and immediacy of XT. Great review. Shimano SLX hiện đang là một trong những cuộn máy câu bán chạy nhất tại thị trường Âu Mỹ. ... Shimano’s SLX is a mid-range mountain bike group with features that should appeal to most mountain bike riders. The 12-speed SLX, XT and XTR cassettes feature Shimano's new Hyperglide+. We may earn commission if you buy from a link. It was intended to be marketed as a more affordable baitcaster. As with the XT drivetrain, the new chainring features coated steel teeth mated to an alloy spider that’s mounted directly to the cranks. The Shimano SLX DC has the technical specifications to be a lot more expensive reel with everything from the Digital Cast control, the Hagane body, the brass gearing, DC-4 four option cast control and compact profile. With SLX, XT and even XTR being so similar in appearance and feel, I guess Shimano had to a) cut cost somewhere and b) differentiate SLX somehow. Crisp shifts. Shimano SLX M670 Chainset isn’t … Good review Al and exactly what I figured after my experience with the 10 and 11spd versions. What you will notice is that your pedal spinning circles are smaller and faster, but you'll completely forget about this 45 minutes into your first ride. So much that it's the feature I miss most when riding a SRAM drivetrain. I run tape on the external face of the arms to prevent my shoes wearing them away but anywhere else shows the abuse they've been dished. So I guess the question is what/if there are any real world performance gaps between 12sp Deore and SLX as the feature set is seemingly identical. I've got an 11sp SLX derailleur and splurged on an XTR 11sp shifter for all the fancy shifting options. The SLX calipers deliver the consistent, powerful braking we expect from Shimano. That sounds like someone I’d enjoy reading content from. Somehow the SLX crank set is priced at just $10 more and drops 100g off the weight of the Deore version so that might be worth looking info if you’re putting together your own drivetrain. I don’t think the 51t is replaceable. This also feels like something that will work better with eMTB’s thanks to the cassette’s ability to better manage shifts under load. Given the indexing magic happens at the shifter, the minimal price delta, and the significant performance benefits, it's a no brainer. Trail on Repeat: Changes as often as my mood. The SLX cranks tested were in the 165mm length and with a 32T chainring they tipped the scales at 625g. I'll also just add that I recently refreshed my SRAM drivetrain (X01 shifter/cassette (10-50)/chain, GX Lunar rear der), and I don't know if it was the change to the x01 cassette or the new Lunar der, but the shifting is notably smoother and better overall. SRAM has some work to do... Not to mention Deore cost/performance compared to NX or SX (puke). No idea why, maybe it reminds me of their ‘STX’ grouppo from way back. The cranks have been solid. With 3 gear ratios to choose from and a long handle, SLX offers tournament anglers a complete series of reels that won't break the bank. There’s no Multi-Release with the SLX and that for me was a bummer. On the topic of eMTB’s, the Shimano Microspline driver and cassette are optimized to work with the torque of an eMTB. Not sure what chain you were running before, but if it was GX or worse, then my guess would be the chain made part of that impact. There's no need for self-extraction or crank-pullers with everything sliding together easily with a few bolts. Currently on an old generation of the SLX and they’ve been great (other than the odd pre lever pump I need to do at start of ride), Up spec’ing the shifter is such a power move. Shimano Introduces 12spd XT and SLX Groups, Riding 2019 Shimano XTR 12spd in Crested Butte, Rev Grips Race Series Shock Absorbing Grip System. Just a correction note here. The SLX and SLX XT were first released in 2018 and the SLX DC was released in 2019 and won Best of Show at ICAST for Freshwater Reel. I have swapped out the SLX pulley wheels for nicer ones in the past after they crapped out, or when I needed to add another small item to the cart. 2021 Kona Process X First Impressions Review, https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/the-benefits-of-reducing-your-crank-length/, 510% range w/ 10-12-14-16-18-21-24-28-33-39-45-51, Hollowtech II cranks w/ single ring setup, Three crank lengths options: 165mm (tested), 170mm and 175mm, Weight: 1,589g (inc. gear cable, 73mm threaded BB). But if the weight were more important, then GX is the way to go, albeit only for 109 grams – 112 grams with the XT shifter upgrade. Read it's strength, weaknesses, find deals and pricing - mtbr.com I used my old chain length to set the SLX chain but for those building a new full suspension bike, Shimano recommends a full wrap of the drivetrain plus 5–6 links before the quick-link. Only the 51T cog on the SLX cassette is alloy. Happy as heck to be back on Shimano - an old trusted friend. But keep in mind that crank length impacts transmission ratios. Short cranks mean more saddle height. Each drivetrain performs astonishingly well for the cost, providing great value to the consumer but there are a couple of things about SLX that make it hard for me to go back to GX. The only time you were ever in the big ring was pavement or some very mellow/shallow fire road. Helium SLX review Skip to view product specifications I’ll be spending quite a lot of time with this bike over the next few months Colin Levitch / Immediate Media The chain drop on backpedal drove me bonkers. Setup is dead simple, removal for maintenance equally basic, and they haven’t needed any attention after hundreds of kilometres of abuse. Gear Review: Shimano SLX DC. On another bike I have 11 speed SLX mech /XT shifter/Sunrace 11-42 on another. 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