So take motion as the box, and then define space and time in terms of derived properties of motion. Whereas Multiverse Theory is by and large related to the many worlds theory of Quantum Physics. But what is the Universe expanding into ? Lying hundreds of billions of light years from us could be other island universes much like our own. One of the super interesting and definitely way out there ideas is that our cosmos to actually just one universe in a vast multiverse. This doesn't mean the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light. This only really applies if the universe has a closed, finite geometry (in at least one direction). Or maybe the background red shift is caused by photon energy loss, from absorption and re-emission, refraction, gravitational lensing, interference, dispersion, and even the Poynting-Robertson Effect if there is an infinitisimal mass associated with the photon (see Goldhaber, Alfred and Nieto, Michael, “The Mass of the Photon,” Scientific American, May 1976). @Mr Whizard: Our universe is enclosed within a singularity, an infinitesimally small dimensionless point. Space outside space that extends infinitely into what our little bubble of a universe may expand into forever. "outside" the universe is a bit paradoxical as others are pointing out simply because the "uni"verse is supposed to encompass everything that exists everywhere. “Multi” implies multiple forms, layers, etc. It may just as easily be infinite in extent; we can’t really tell. Curiously enough, Einstein’s ToR shows us that no matter where you go, or how fast you travel to get there, you must always maintain your relative frame of reference of viewing yourself at the center of the universe. What IS space? Roughly 13.75 billion years ago, our universe came into existence. True nothing, the lack of a potential something to occupy a volume of space is truely a waste of a possible container of existence. Feb 1, 2020 #53 Our Universe Could Be An Expanding Bubble in an Extra Dimension Is our universe sitting on the edge of an expanding bubble? Or 26 and unicorn dreams? The EPR paradox is an example. However, that outside is defined in terms of space, and all of space should be inside the universe. Finally, all of the constituents of our universe are accelerating, via gravity, to the edges of our universe due to a large amount of gravitationally significant material that exists at it’s margins (and further). Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window), Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), Click to email this to a friend (Opens in new window), Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License. Our entire universe was but a tiny speck of this underlying reality, that’s how “dense” the energy is in the underlying reality “outside” our universe. According to the theory of cosmic inflation, the entire universe’s size is at least 10^23 times larger than the size of the observable universe. We have a long way to go to find the answers. If the external world is not thinkable, it is nevertheless possible to approach it indirectly. Maybe the quote should be updated to read: “If you go in one direction long enough, you just remain at your starting point”. Pesqueeb bicycle in airplane hangar. This includes not only Marvel Comics, but also DC Comics, Image, Dark Horse, Archie, Harvey, Shueisha, Boom Studios, Rebellion, Dynamite, IDW, Graphic India, Derby Pop, Vertigo, Oni Press, Udon, Valiant, and every universe ever mentioned or seen (and an infinite amount never mentioned or seen) inclu… One form of the question asks, \"Could you go somewhere that you could look 'beyond' the universe,\" the way one might peer beyond a cliff edge or look out a window to see the outside of a building? That question is what drives research, as well as natural human curiosity. And in the open air our universes matter and energy etc will be at the mercy of whatever laws of the Outerverse inflict upon us. So an answer is not really given. Every. It's just that the universe is expanding so quick. How can the universe be 93 billion light-years across if it is only 13.8 billion years old? True nothing can not exist. Comment: Or maybe the background red shift is caused by photon energy loss, from absorption and re-emission, refraction, gravitational lensing, interference, dispersion, and even the Poynting-Robertson Effect if there is an infinitisimal mass associated with the photon (see Goldhaber, Alfred and Nieto, Michael, “The Mass of the Photon,” Scientific American, May Although the universe was born only 13.7 billion years ago, this is because the expansion of the cosmic space far exceeds the speed of light. Yeah, this is the one I like. There are a lot more out there but, I understand and agree that registration on or use of this site constitutes agreement to its User Agreement and Privacy Policy. These ideas are just a few of the more popular hypotheses. It's Universe all the way down. Outerverse? Whatever or whoever ends up in the city is erased from the flow time as if they never existed, and is therefore forgotten about. It would seem that what you laid out, along with considerations for the source of heat energy, at least explains the many anomalies that have been observed. Light hasn’t had enough time to travel that far…? The visible diameter of the universe we are in has reached 93 billion light-years. To put it another way, a theoretical outside observer looking at our universe would only detect an infinitesimally small singularity (and even though there is no outside to our universe, there is no reason why an infinite number of singularities couldn’t exist; each with its own universe of continuously unfolding time and space within). This is much harder to visualize then that you end up where you started from. The "observable" Universe is literally that. Not true. The Universe might be infinite, in which case it would be sorta true that there's nothing outside it because technically there would be no "outside". Ultimately, this means that we could only reach the edge of the observable universe if we develop a method of transport that allows us to either 1) Travel faster than the speed of light (something which most physicists think is impossible) 2) Transcend spacetime (by using wormholes or warp drive, which most physicists also think is impossible). As for the structures themselves, they could be literally anything: Amazingly huge accumulations of matter and energy (on scales we can hardly imagine) or even bizarre warps in space-time that are funneling gravitational forces from other universes. Kind of a haphazard brain fart on the star ship WOW. The "outside the universe" question gets tricky right off the bat, because first you have to define the universe. Or maybe the background red shift is caused by photon energy loss, from absorption and re-emission, refraction, gravitational lensing, interference, dispersion, and even the Poynting-Robertson Effect if there is an infinitisimal mass associated with the photon (see Goldhaber, Alfred and Nieto, Michael, “The Mass of the Photon,” Scientific American, May 1976). This notion seems inconceivable. That means that our observable universe is some 93 billion light-years wide (give or take a few light-years). I guess isn’t what is beyond the universe the fourth or fifth dimension? Also, the actual universe is much much much bigger than the observable universe. This is like a problem with real numbers. A few hundred episodes ago, I answered the question, “What is the Universe Expanding Into?” The gist of the answer is that the Universe as we understand it, isn’t really expanding into anything. The secret, but the vastness of the universe is unimaginable to humans. What we end up with would be the same amount of gravitational content in a volume significantly smaller (infinitely smaller?) If not, then the universe is the limit. I love this topic. Unfortunately, since we can’t see it or measure it, we don’t know what lies beyond the bounds of the observable universe. What we perceive is what we create mentally. And in each one of these universes, the laws of physics are completely different. What is the average of 7 and green? See no ads on this site, see our videos early, special bonus material, and much more. That’s a lot of universe that we are missing. I always try to think about what would “be” if our universe (or any universes as it may be), did not exist. If these bubble universes got close enough, there might be a way they could rub together, to interact in ways that were detectable from within the Universe. the universe is the limit. Outside the universe there is no space, therefore there are no dimensions. When examining the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation, the afterglow leftover from the Big Bang, astronomers have found a temperature fluctuations. That leads to the question of “What kind of motion produces (defines) what kind of space or time?” That may sound kind of silly, but you are already familiar with one aspect of this: motion at very high speeds slows down the passage of time. This is kinda the same questions as “what is out universe expanding into?”. “Uni” basically means one or all encompassing. Perhaps other self contained multiverses. So we live in a kind of baked bread multi-verse with all of the holes in the baked dough representing the many universes and the dough representing the stuff that lies between them all (densely packed photons) from which everything is made. Very shortly thereafter, primordial light started shooting across the cosmos and spreading throughout the early universe. Because my comment was “already submitted” (supposedly) it is not being allowed. My understanding is that this has to do with the three dimensional geometry of the universe. This means that, at present, we know that the universe i… In other words, finding the cause of the distortion in the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation arrears to me to be so difficult, that it will not be found in my lifetime. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License. Join our 836 patrons! In other words, we could look out into space and see a cosmic bruise, and know that’s where our universe is colliding with another one. Ultimately, understanding this facet of physics is the key to understanding what lies beyond the edge of the observable universe and whether we could ever get there. Makes me think the author was celebrating 420 day. This medium? Both have strong skeletons built with precision, and both have the outward appearance of something alive and vital. Another theory deals with something called “dark flow.” In 2008, astronomers discovered something very strange and unexpected—galactic clusters were all streaming in the same direction at immense speed, over two million miles per hour. Outside of that we have no idea. • In 1929, American Astronomer, Edwin Hubble discovered the Red shift of galaxies which indicated Expansion of this Universe. Namely densely packed photons of all wavelengths and energies. What is outside the observable universe? Summing their gravitational components from their masses using the gravitational equation we would arrive at some number for this 10cc cube. The fact that our universe is not alone is supported by data received from the Planck space telescope. Like 2 cars moving away from each other both driving at 60mph. If you go in any one direction long enough, you just return to your starting point. A giant cosmic child girl blowing cosmic bubbles? The space inside it is not nothing. For further insights I recommend the paper: “Beyond Einstein: Non-local physics” by Brian Fraser (2015). So, as matter is consumed, whether into photos at black holes, or via fusion or fission in solar bodies, etc., heat is produced along with photons. This is no longer the case, as our knowledge of the universe has considerably advanced and expanded by the present age. This is my first and only comment on this article. So, in some ways, infinity makes sense. Because the following comment was “already submitted” (supposedly) it is not being allowed. So if this is the case, and astronomers are witnessing a universal interaction, what does this mean for the poor aliens who might be getting overlapped by the next universe over? Or.. Or… We pop and we like the soap bubble, release our contents into the open whatever you want to call it. The answer to that query is \"probably not.\"One reason involves the \"cosmological principle,\" said Robert McNees, an associate professor of physics at Loyola University Chicago. So like bubbles we may pop or merge into a giant bubble. These different temperatures, or anisotropies are regions where different densities of matter in the early Universe were scaled up to enormous scales by the ongoing expansion. For each one of those basic constants, it’s as if the laws of physics randomly rolled the dice, and came up with our Universe – a place that’s almost, but not completely hostile to life. You know almost everything about the ocean. “And in each one of these universes, the laws of physics are completely different.” Not actually true. But regarding the intelligence argument. But this is a question most people don’t even think about, like the question of “Why is there a horizon?”. We covered this topic in great detail in episode 408 of Astronomy Cast, so if you want hear more from Dr. Pamela Gay, click here and watch the show. The complete collapse of the cavitary bubble with our continued acceleration towards the margins will eventually result in the consumption and ultimate reduction of all matter back into their constituent photons and dissipation of the bubble probably back into another high energy state singularity as the margins crash into one another that requires resolution into a lower energy state via another cavitary, shock wave explosion. Then he bends back to the CMB, and that’s back into the macroscopic again. The universe is a vast expanse of space which contains all of everything in existence. Outside the bounds of our universe may lie a "super" universe. Essentially, since its inception, the cosmos has been growing at an ever increasing rate. We understand some of the PROPERTIES of space and time but we don’t really know how to DEFINE them. Imagine an empty container. However, due to the inflation of the universe, as well as the apparently accelerating expansion of every observable corner of the universe, the most distant light we have been able to detect is from roughly 46 billion light-years in every direction. Cosmologists estimate that the oldest photons that we can observe have traveled a distance of 45-47 billion light-years since the Big Bang. If you think there is no (alien life forms) els where inside the universe... then its like saying theres nothing outside the universe(the outside of the bubble) We are far too tiny compare what the universe beats you to think.. and the universe is smaller then what the universe things outside … Conversely, if we created a 10cc cube of this condensed electron constituent, we might even call it a baby black hole with all of the gravitational attributes of something so dense and concentrated. The narrative is only possible b/c of the observer(s), “Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you’ve already said that!”. I wonder, couldn’t we also consider the thermodynamic aspects? The definition of the Universe is that it contains everything. The inside and outside are not “parts” of the box, anymore than space and time are “parts” of the Universe. Then of course there’s the quantum physics answer, which is: The universe is basically made of thought-forms. In fact, consciousness exists outside of constraints of time and space. Whatever we “project” and agree upon will be the reality we perceive. We just mock up something else and that is what will be. Thing. Okay, so, I need to put an asterisk on that answer, and then when you read the fine print it’d say something like, “unless we live in a multiverse”. if you do think that there is something outside the universe then it would probably be an over/underworld if you look from the religous side of things. We either live in a Universe, or we live in a Multi-verse. Implicit in that picture of the universe is an outside. It is that which is waiting to be filled with something, as of volume. They'd be 120 miles apart. Despite its strangeness, this first idea is one of the easiest to digest. In the vast majority of those universes, no life could ever form, but roll the dice an infinite number of times and you’ll eventually get the conditions for life. Our system was born in the last 1/2 of the age of the universe. He said that “without motion, nothing happens”. It would be that part of our Universe that is speeding off faster than the speed of light. At the same time is true that there is nothing beyond the end of the universe. T the time the Holy Quran was revealed, the human understanding of the nature of the cosmos and the movement or the stillness of the heavenly bodies was extremely primitive and obscure. Scientists believe the universe is still expanding outward. Clearly the question of “What is outside the Universe?” involves deep questions about space and time themselves. But this heat energy must have come from something, so would photon decay be the source of this energy? Now, since the electron is quite voluminous (as it contains only one photon, no other particles), imagine if the volume of the electron were to be reduced to the volume of it’s constituent photon. Nothing? All that we can see and measure. (not that anyone could ever verify it). In other words, it is non-local in the same sense that quantum objects are non-local. Densely packed photons, hnu, or energy The same stuff that not only makes up everything in our universe (all particles can eventually be reduced to their photons), but that which exists at the boundary of our cavitary bubble, and beyond, being responsible for the gravitational field into which everything is subsequently being drawn (calculate the resultant gravitational vectors inside of a hollow sphere in a large cube of very dense material). We kinda want this to be the right answer, because if parallel universes really do exist, shit's about to get so weird. the inside of the universe is what's outside of the universe . It is finite. To break this down, according to special relativity, objects that are close together cannot move faster than the speed of light with respect to one another; however, there is no such law for objects that are extremely distant from one another when the space between them is, itself, expanding. So imagine all these different bubble universes popping up in this vast cosmic foam of the multiverse, and the laws of physics are different. All rules concerning the Universe are governed by the laws and theories of Issac Newton, and Albert Einstein for the most part. What IS time? So what happens when we get to the end? You need observers in order to force infinite quantum possibilities into a single reality, fixed into place moment by moment, inadvertently creating time, perhaps. There is also something called “non-local motion”. If so, is it the same kind of nothing that exists between galaxies, stars, planets and moons? Humans tried to uncover the entire universe in ancient times. Whatever it is, it can’t be good for the aliens and their continued healthy existence. Yet, we will continue to accelerate to the margins, under the gravitational pull (in our hollow, cavitary sphere), and ultimately merge with and into the stuff (energy, photons, hnu, however you’d like to define it) that exists there (which may also be occurring and may actually be responsible for some of the information gathered by COBE as some of our particulate matter gets consumed by the margins.). What would “exist” if anything….and if nothing existed, how do we picture it..or, like a 4th or higher dimension, can we picture it? In short, it’s not that objects are traveling faster than the speed of light, but that the space between objects is expanding, causing them to fly away from each other at amazing speeds. JS. At this juncture, the universe itself was also expanding. No particles. While most of these differences in temperature are explained by the current cosmological theories for the Universe, there’s one region that defies the theories. I question why someone would include it in a current cosmology article. The cosmological principle states that the distribution of mat… Pair formation of 1.0216 MeV gammarays (“the creation operator”) should be adequate to populate the universe with matter given enough time, as the 13.8 billion year limit would not apply in this case. Those several paragraphs succinctly explained a very complex and varied topic into a neat consistent picture of how the more obscure aspects of matter work. If, on the other hand, the universe has a finite size, then it may be legitimate to claim that there is something "outside of the universe" that the universe is expanding into. We don't know Cosmologists and Astronomers have put forward theories about this but really, no one knows. “If you go in any one direction long enough, you just return to your starting point.”. The .html file gives a link to the .pdf, and also contains additional information such as updates and comments. As the Universe expands, that journey takes longer, but there’s still nothing that it’s going into. In fact, an infinite multiverse. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. It is able to be anywhere: in the human body and outside of it. What we know with certainty is that the Big Bang occurred 13.8 billion years ago, meaning that is the age of the universe. You blew my mind but also gave me a something to hang my hat on. Universe, the whole cosmic system of matter and energy of which Earth, and therefore the human race, is a part.Humanity has traveled a long road since societies imagined Earth, the Sun, and the Moon as the main objects of creation, with the rest of the universe being formed almost as an afterthought. The inflation of the universe slowed after the first initial burst, but since then, the rate of expansion has been steadily increasing due to the influence of dark energy. Notably, recent analyses have claimed to debunk the dark flow model, but this debunking is still being disputed. This is no more than an exercise in mental masturbation by an impotent entity. Yes it is a multi-verse. “The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition.” Out side of THAT? Another option involves a universe of universes. @Tim: We observe that the CMBR itself is redshifted in one direction and blueshifted in the opposite direction, which indicates that our Local Group of galaxies moves at about 600 kilometers per second relative to the primordial radiation produced by the BB event. I hope Mr. Cain is not engaging in obscurantism in denying other descriptions of the background red shift. Some parts of the universe are too far away for the light emitted since the Big Bang to have had enough time to reach Earth or its scientific space-based instruments, and therefore lie outside the observable universe. Wow! Anyway, there are lots of ideas for what the Axis of Evil might be. At some point in time the cavitary bubble will cease to expand and will then contract (could be happening now…). – Carl Sagan, US astronomer & popularizer of astronomy (1934 – 1996), What is outside the Universe? Who captured our contents and put them in the bubble? And honestly, who can envision a universe that has an end—a huge brick wall lurking at its edge? I know it sounds far out, but no more far out that multi-universes, in my opinion. i hope Mr. Cain is not engaging in obscurantism in denying other descriptions of the background red shift. Where do things go when there is no “where” to go to? Podcast (audio): Download (Duration: 5:33 — 2.4MB), Podcast (video): Download (Duration: 5:48 — 75.8MB). Today it is known that Earth is only a small ball of rock in a space of unimaginable … than our 10cc cube. Or the Macroscopic environment. 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